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>> major duckworth? >> yeah, i think that they will be but we have to help them get there. >> colonel, we'll end with you. >> short answer is no. never been a country. it's been centrally governed from kabul and probably never will be. >> and you made an interesting note there that sort of karen alluded to, the president when it comes to foreign policy he has a leg to stand on. >> well, he's killed more bad guys surely than did the previous president relying on predator strikes, lots of intelligence, good intelligence from pakistan and special operations. >> thanks to all of you. appreciate yo...

Playing both sides the middle here. there is notice doubt that intelligence services supported bin laden in the compound. it is impossible to believe otherwise. we have to get them to go back to where they said they were on september 12th and get them more on sight. it is difficult. we can't say we are tired of all of this and throw them over the side. >> general, do you agree with thamp do you believe that pakistan knew bin laden was there and don't come in our borders again. is that a good that an offense makes a good defense? >> i do agree with the amboss -- ambassador. we have killed peopl...

D'etre. so bin laden -- this is like the one-two punch. the arab spring delegitimizes the basic idea, and then you lose the charismatic leader. i don't see how they recover from this. >> this is hopefully not a day of politics, and certainly let's hope for many more days it won't be days of politics. i think ultimately people will start to discuss who this benefits and stuff like that. i don't really want to do that at this point. but do you think the bush administration deserves a lot of the credit for what has happened? >> well, anderson, we're a great nation, and at a time like this people ...

Lose the charismatic leader. i don't see how they recover from this. >> this is hopefully not a day of politics, and certainly let's hope for many more days it won't be days of politics. i think ultimately people will start to discuss who this benefits and stuff like that. i don't really want to do that at this point. but do you think the bush administration deserves a lot of the credit for what has happened? >> well, anderson, we're a great nation, and at a time like this people really do take pride in being americans and putting our country above politics. i think part of being a great natio...

With al qaeda decapitated, experts believe this is now a terror network in crisis. what kind of a hole is al qaeda in now as far as leadership is concerned? >> they've been in a hole for some time. they've suffered operational setbacks because of things like predator strikes, their operational leadership is decimated. >> reporter: phillip mudd, former cia officer and counterterrorism official says osama bin laden is irreplaceable. with so many jihadists having looked to bin laden for direction for inspirational command, filling his void will be a disjointed messy undertaking. there are two obv...