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Here, couldn't the family members be like, yeah, it's my dad, i'm not in the inaugural committee. i worked at trump org but it's not my money specifically. >> just being part of the association does not mean you're guilty of the crime. the group will commit crimes, even if you individually are not part of those criminal activities, that part of the group will commit at least two of the predicate crimes on the rico list, that could be sufficient for a rico conspiracy, you're right, not just mere association, but an association for the purpose of committing crimes. >> just understand briefly, yo...

Little bit of sense. rico essentially was a statute passed in 1970 to go after the mob, because mob bosses would insulate themselves by having underlings commit crimes. it's a crime for someone to participate in the affairs of an organization either directly or indirectly through a pattern of racketeering activity. those predicate crimes could be wire fraud, mail fraud, money laundering, some of the very same kind of crimes we're seeing the southern district look at. could they be building a rico case. >> did you ever see the dark knight rises batman movie? >> yes, that's for the legal nerds, ...

To use that dark knight analogy here, couldn't the family members be like, yeah, it's my dad, i'm not in the inaugural committee. i worked at trump org but it's not my money specifically. >> just being part of the association does not mean you're guilty of the crime. the group will commit crimes, even if you individually are not part of those criminal activities, that part of the group will commit at least two of the predicate crimes on the rico list, that could be sufficient for a rico conspiracy, you're right, not just mere association, but an association for the purpose of committing crimes...

You look at the southern district of new york, it makes a little bit of sense. rico essentially was a statute passed in 1970 to go after the mob, because mob bosses would insulate themselves by having underlings commit crimes. it's a crime for someone to participate in the affairs of an organization either directly or indirectly through a pattern of racketeering activity. those predicate crimes could be wire fraud, mail fraud, money laundering, some of the very same kind of crimes we're seeing the southern district look at. could they be building a rico case. >> did you ever see the dark knigh...

Rico and the basic allegations are, take all of the things that we know about russia involvement in the campaign, trump contacts with russia during the campaign. and now we are saying all those things that we previously called collusion, now they are a civil conspiracy under the rico statutes. basically, what this means is all of these contacts, all of these e-mails, all these relationships constituted a conspiracy to commit a number of predicate crimes. >> how would you make the argument to have this dismissed. >> first, the number one thing i would do is attack the civil rico. and i would sa...