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It's undeniable. you've seen in the words of the u.n. ambassador today that they're really in a state of alarm about how many options we have left with diplomacy and whether or not we have to use a military response. >> talk about the political stakes. we talked about the diplomatic stakes. as you say, not really necessary any good military options because what could happen in seoul if we were to launch a unilateral strike about north korea, pyongyang. talk about the political stakes for president trump. someone that democrats have been accusing him to be a commander-in-chief not up to the job...

There was an option to talk. >> barbara starr, the president says all options are on the table, which is different than the former chief strategist, steve bannon, said when he said there was no military option. what option is there for the u.s. to respond? >> no new military options. this has been going on for years, right? the pentagon top commanders have laid out all the potential military options for the president. i think the question always remains the same, and to some extent, it is what steve bannon was referring to. how much risk are you willing to take? is there a realistic military o...

Preemptive strike by the united states would be very costly potentially in terms of humanitarian catastrophe, lives lost if you united states were to try to bomb a missile launch site very close to any north korean city. they gain a lot with this. what have they lost? seventh round of sanctions has already passed. all right condemned for other launch the. the sanctions haven't even taken effect yet. what is the united states going to do? when the president says all options are on the table, what real options do they have in that is is a question the north korea's think they know the answer to....

The japanese. but i think the basic calculation remains the same. it is very hard to launch any kind of preemptive strike without the south korean government being a part of it. and without essentially putting 20 million south koreans in bomb shelters. >> and so basically, steve bannon was right when he in the last days of his -- when he wrote -- where he said in an interview with the american prospect, until somebody solves part of the equation that shows me that 10 million people in seoul don't die, i don't know what you're talking about. there is no military solution here. they got us. is h...

The japanese messaging very heavily against the north korean regime. for the united states, the key question, the key military question remains unchanged. how much risk would president trump be willing to take in a military campaign against north korea? if he launch es a preemptive strike, if he launches inside north korea, it is a given that north korea will quickly launch counterattacks and tens of thousands of people in seoul could very quickly be killed, a humanitarian global level disaster. it's why so far this has not happened. jim? >> beyond the scale of anything we've seen for a long t...