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The syrians. so, releasing it publicly like this may get it to the syrians. the interesting thing is we're going to do something preemptive, for example. it's extremely difficult to do. you're either going to have to launch an attack on an area that has nothing at all to do with a chemical attack where you launch it actually on the chemicals and then you have the chance of dispersing it all over and making much more dangerous. >> so, on the idea the potential for some kind of a preemptive act by the united states. am i understanding correctly, you think the chances are pretty low? >> i think t...

This as political why the white house would want to put this information out? because if you remember, the president trump's reaction to syria was a huge win for him that got bipartisan support across the board, and here we are at a very difficult moment with a possible vote on the health care bill that the president kind of seems to want to distance himself from, is releasing this kind of information a political move? >> it's a huge deal to, you know, mention a preemptive strike on syria. he certainly is quite troubled right now domestically. the problem is who can differentiate what's politi...

From north korea and, two-- >> they can't get out of north korea. >> you can't get out of north korea. >>, but they also want north korea to serve as a buffer between south korea and the united states as well, so, i mean there is interest there with china. eric: guys, hold on. i want to bring this to gina. about a minute left. you can take this home. if i'm wrong and we don't need to do a preemptive strike, how in the world-- what are the sanctions we need to get in place and how are we going to get them in place and by whom? >> well, i think that president trump has taken some great steps in ...

Nuclear weapons and that overrides the korean peninsula. >> you've seen the president's tweet specifically on china saying he's tried to work with president xi and says, it hasn't worked out. at least i know china tried. so now what? >> well, i don't really understand what he was getting at there. diplomacy takes time. it's a long slog and it's two steps forward and one step back. the problem is there really aren't good options. we have to keep the threat of military force on the table. that is what makes the diplomacy work. but on the other hand, it's a very complicated situation in the sense...

>> curtis: it is all about the money. >> kat: there are consequences to threatening and aiming cannons of people all around the world. >> curtis: but we do it in syria. north korea. >> eric: let's bring douglas n. 1981, israel was threatened by the iranians and the nuclear program and they went in and said we want your health, united states. we weren't offering it and they did on their own. they blasted their nuclear capabilities 20 years into the future. >> douglas: the most successful preemptive strike in military history. the thing with north korea, you've got to decide what it is you want....