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Insurance products but mainly we would allow sale of inexpensive insurance, obamacare made it illegal to sell inexpensive insurance, because everything had to have pregnancy coverage or 10 or 11 different mandates, we get rid of these mandates and let the market sell what consumers want, that would drive the prices down. when you pay for your care mostly all of healthy saving account, if 30% paid out of that they would call their doctor and ask how much manage would cost, and force transparency by having consumer interest in the price. it works -- >> we're now not sure what kind of priorities,...

He's been fraught with unrealistic ideas. he did talk about the 10% tax rate across the board. well, low-income people don't pay federal income taxes, they pay other taxes. that would be a massive increase on low income people and a massive decrease on the wealthy. >> wasn't that $2,000, the fact to redistribute between family members. you can take from your wife or husband and take it into your account if you wanted to. did you hear about that? >> well, i think maybe the thinking behind that is differentiating based on what health care you need. that's one of the criticisms of the affordable ...

Going to be the panacea, a fix for everything. what were the danger signs this administration didn't pay attention to to? >> all new mandates. having to have pregnancy coverage for you. >> you never know? you know? who knows? so... >> well, you never know. >> i think i do. in this case, i think i do. >> it doesn't make sense, right? we all know that does not make sense. we have to have coverage we don't want or need, can't afford. so when you layout a program forcing everybody to have a one size fits all solution, we're not one size fits all people. so it's -- there in s.no way it can be succe...

Was not going to be the panacea, this fix for everything. whats were the danger signs from the beginning that this administration simply didn't pay attention to? >> all of the new mandates. we talked earlier about having to -- for you having to have pregnancy coverage for example. >> you never know, i mean, mary, who knows. >> well, you never know. >> i think i do. in this case i think i do. >> but, in this case, it doesn't make sense. we all intuitively know that does not make sense. yet, we all have to have coverage we don't want, can't need, can't afford. when you lay out a program that's f...

Was not going to be the panacea, this fix for everything. what were the danger signs that the administration didn't pay attention to? >> mandates, talked about having to have pregnancy coverage for you. you never know. you know? who knows? so... >> well, you never know. >> i think i do. in this case, i think i do. >> it doesn't make sense, right? we know that that doesn't make sense, we all have to have coverage we don't want and can't afford. forcing everybody to have a one size fits all solution we're not one size fits all people. >> when the insurance companies are told you can't offer this...