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This entire mess were sufficient. we'll see of course if that changes today. >> kristen welker, we've got another hour and 15 minutes before we're supposed to see sarah sanders, who i'm sure this will be one of the first questions that gets asked of her, and will she try to walk this back, will she try to somehow parse the fact that he mouthed the word "no," maybe he didn't hear the question clearly, i mean, again, a position that she's being put in to try to make something -- well, i don't want to put anything on her, but this is not -- yet again, not a good day for this white house, not a go...

And everything we've learned since then is my goodness, he should have fired him earlier. >> yeah. isn't that the problem? that there have been multiple explanations -- he said in that interview he fired him because of russia. >> exactly. and that was the first time we had learned that that was obviously suspected, don. as you recall, before that, for 48 hours the white house maintained the reason the president fired him is because of a recommendation from the attorney general jeff sessions and deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. watching giuliani there in that interview, i watched it live...

This was really the peak and the stretch of where she stood after access hollywood. and then he comes out with a parade of women, the past accusers of bill clinton, puts them on facebook live, this was david bossy and steve bannon, tries to seek them in the family section, right in her line of sight, the debate commission refuses, as i understand it, at the time, and they finally do get seated in the front row of the bleachers. how upsetting was all of that? >> i think that weekend encapsulated a lot of the horribleness of the race. that friday, as you said, the tape came out, everyone's jaw d...

They can essentially refine their testimony as it comes to mind during the staff interviews but it's also good for the committee in the sense the staff tend to be more substantive, more prepared, better questionings. they'll get documentation so in some sense this allows this prep session the senators to get a briefing on what they're saying so that if they go to public hearing and if i were counsel to either of these guys i would try to avoid that very much, it allows for -- >> not look good when you do that, though? >> -- allows for more questioning by the snorsz. sorry? >> that doesn't look...

Be undermined by a new revelation that came out. it seems ben carson is trying to articulate that this weekend. one of the other theories is that he just doesn't do that. at the end of the day, the conversations inside trump tower broke down along very familiar lines with the family arguing to let trump be trump. he was more evita than trump going out and greeting the masses outside trump tower. >> love me. >> don't play with evita. >> in a place he didn't want to be. they had him prepping. he spent a lot of last week while you were covering the storm prepping. after his dismal performance. >>...