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That's fair to tax paying families and more important it's fair to those families, who will help families stuck in our welfare system. that's what we should do. the final thing we should do as a party is continue to hold people accountable in positions of public trust who do things wrong. the best example is john costin at the irs. the first amendment free speechç rights, they had targeting conservative groups around this country, mr. cospin was commissioner when 24,000 documents were destroyed with preservation orders in place and subpoenas in place. >> that is an interesting issue. there's ...

How is it confirmed already? >> well, it's from all of the data that everyone is collecting, including us. we have filed -- we filed this suit very quickly so that we could file evidentiary preservation orders. those orders allowed us to look equally with transocean and bp to make sure the evidence is collected and the root cause of this disaster is determined. >> we, unlike you, don't want to deal with stale evidence or stale news, and we're there at the port with the country representatives, with the coast guard observing materials coming in off the rig and will continue our efforts in terms...

Familiar with the track, that they're attentive, they're not fatigued or distracted and they're not incapacitated. certainly the investigators will be looking to interview the engineer and if there was anyone else in that locomotive cab with him on this inaugural run, that's going to be really important to understand what was going on. >> i assume they look at his cell phone, make sure he wasn't texting. we've seen all these things in the past. they check blod alcohol level. is that one of the first places that they go? >> yeah. standard protocol is they're going to be looking at drug and alco...