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Press pass, but you have to create and establish and follow some rules to do that. and let him understand what he's accused of violating and let him defend himself. but in the meantime, he gets his press pass back, and the status quo returns. >> until this point, to revoke a hard pass as it's called, you would need to be a threat to the president. is that right? based on a secret service judgment. is the judge inviting the white house to create new rules here? >> i think the judge is inviting -- not inviting, requiring the white house both to clarify what the rules are that justify taking away...

Process under the law. now, precisely what process that is, the judge didn't spell that out. again, if i believe -- you know, this situation cries out for a sensible, honorable, nonlegal solution. jim acosta made his point. and cnn made its point. the white house made its point. let's shake hands and move forward. we don't need to, as they say, make a federal case out of it, even though one has been made. >> for the record, cnn did try. they tried for several days to get the press pass back. there were private conversations and e-mails. white house did not respond, didn't want to engage. that'...

Only 66 counties and are still doing it. this is the only one that completed it. >> good to know. kerry sanders in broward county, florida, thank you. >> we want to bring in breaking news about that cnn lawsuit against the white house. we told you the top of the show the judge was expected to make a ruling. pete williams, our justice dpont is -- correspondent is on top of that. >> remember, cnn wanted the white house to give the press pass back. they were hoping for a total victory. the white house was hoping for a total victory to say no. they can decide who gets a press pass. so this is a mi...

Go to newdayusa.com or call 1-855-371-7304 the trump administration responding in court to cnn lawsuit. cnn sued the trump administration yesterday over its pulling the press credentials of chief white house correspondent jim acosta. now the president is responding. >> the administration as filed a response in court ahead of the 3:30 p.m. hearing. cnn is asking for a temporary restraining order to get the press pass back. the white house is saying president trump has quote broad

Our chief media correspondent, reliable sources anchor brian stelter along with april ryan, white house correspondent for american urban radio networks and author of "under fire: reporting from the front lines of the trump white house" and april's you're important in all this. the president's called you out specifically by name as a loser, asking nasty questions. as part of this whole brouhaha. brian, let me start with you, though, because this has gotten to the point of a lawsuit. but you just heard one of cnn's lawyers there saying that they tried to not have it go to that point. they tried ...