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>> i would prefer not to make a bad highlight reel. jeb bush was the favorite to win the republican nomination for president. we remember how that turned out. i think democrats have to decide what they want. i'm getting the sense what they really want is to have somebody who will win the general election and beat donald trump. next year will be incredibly unpredictable. it will be a volcanic year. events may reshape the race. there are certain fundamentals that you have to have some staying power. all these candidates will be tested. all will have go through fire. only handful will have the mo...

To them and then of course this trump tower moscow deal going on. you have an eagerness to see donald trump collected. when they were confronted by it they collide. i think it is pretty clear collusion. >> okay. let's move onto roger stone. as you know, he is a former trump campaign adviser. he is denying the links. what are your thoughts on that? >> i interviewed roger stone with my colleagues. i read, you know, the constant amendments that roger stone had to send to us afterwards to update his testimony because of press reporting had caught him not being truthful with us. now, our position o...

Is what we know and what we don't know. there will be nuances there that probably haven't been picked up in the press reporting, because whoever has leaked it, has just given the basic to have-line judgment. if you're in the administration and want to cast doubt on it, you can probably find something in it that gives you a wedge or an excuse to say, well, i have a different view. >> not definitive there, yeah. >> that said, that said, when they make an assessment and come to a conclusion like this, they are standing on ground that they regard as solid. >> john, thank you for this solid discuss...

Far that whitaker has taken action to try to reign in mueller? >> we have evidence from a box story that this was premeditated, that donald trump and whitaker have been plot this takeover for a while. when you take the prior statements to whitaker, i think it's clear why sessions was fired and why whitaker was hired. we were a lot more helpless on monthan we are right now. they can try, but the reality of this new congress will set in for the president very quickly. >> in terms of action that you could take, as part of the intel committee, as part of the judiciary committee, will those committ...

Roger stone was being truthful. so we couldn't look at text messages and bank records, but press reporting revealed he had met with a russian in florida. and so after that came out he updated the house intelligence committee. press reporting told us he had been in contact with wikileaks. he said oh, by the way, i wasn't straightforward with that, here's what i was say with wikileaks. he hasn't come clean, and i think he has a lot to hide. his lawyer would send additional updates to us. we wanted to bring him back in, but the republicans buried the evidence, shutdown the investigation. >> jill ...