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Pressure groups? the gay rights groups. >> jesse jackson has been doing this for 30 years. is there -- is anyone surprised that he has injected himself in this controversy? this is what he does. is he part of the grievous industry very lucrative. he may claim to be acting on behalf of black people. but jesse jackson is acting on behalf of jesse jackson. >> stop right there. this is a great point. very lucrative what he just said. put pressure on a&e. doest does he want a show on a&e, too? >> he wants to be able to continue to go around corporate america and shake them down for money. give to m...

With the department store. >> no, but it has to do with individual americans. >> but it's the spirit of free speech, okay, but the point is, if a store, the person owns the store, the person invested in the store, it's not your money, it's his money. if he wants to say i don't want my people saying merry christmas because it isn't good for business, i think he's wrong, but that's his right to do it. >> it may be his right, but if that had continued, if that crescendo of craziness -- >> what would have happened if that continued? >> we wouldn't have christmas greeting anymore, not in the congre...

Those do with government, not with the department store. >> no, but it has to do with individual americans. >> but it's the spirit of free speech, okay, but the point is, if a store, the person owns the store, the person invested in the store, it's not your money, it's his money. if he wants to say i don't want my people saying merry christmas because it isn't good for business, i think he's wrong, but that's his right to do it. >> it may be his right, but if that had continued, if that crescendo of craziness -- >> what would have happened if that continued? >> we wouldn't have christmas greet...

If you want to run a conservative candidate you can do. that but it is emotional because somero commentator and cable news on the conservative side, they are sumpthetic with the pressure groups and so they bring the message out to people who might vote republican and a war starts even though the house voted to pass the budget. >> well, there may be some truth that there is some sympathy between some groups and conservative commentators, but i happen to be on the hill when it bubbled up. one conservative member said to me. i don't need to be lectured by a 32-year-old kid about my conservative c...

Passed legislation in 1870 acknowledging the ju day yoe christian tradition. americans officially got the day off from work. everything was swell up until about ten years ago when creeping secularism and pressure groups like the aclu began attacking the christmas holiday. they demanded the word christmas be removed from advertising and public displays and many people caved into that. now we have the happy holidays syndrome. what's interesting this year is that hanukkah will be over on thursday so there is no more holidays between then and christmas day. it's just christmas if you want to invok...