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Tell you about the culture right now? >> it tells me we're in a culture with the obvious, that we're very divided and unfortunately we have a commander in chief that is more of a divider in chief. this is -- race is so much more of an issue than it's ever been in this country. we should be going in the opposite direction. as every decade goes by, race should be a smaller and smaller piece of our collective -- i think it should be tried as a hate crime because this inspire as much hate as any other hate crime and obviously we're not going to put what happened on trump, but we can put on trump c...

They really went out to document what they alleged was this fraud. and if you listen to that press conference yesterday, my goodness, the amount of evidence that they have documentary evidence, everything, the check. who allegedly committed the fake assault. it just astounding. >> if this happened as described by chicago police yesterday, this is 100% on jussie smollett. but what the police superintendent pointed to yesterday was politicians, people running for president, celebrities and, yes, members of the media jumping out immediately on this before we knew anything, before people knew anyt...

These were activities -- and she was involved in it herself. she helped him find girls. >> so is it impossible at this point to get the logs of who traveled with him on his private jet to his island, for example? >> well, some of those logs are -- have been released as part of this case. i've looked at those logs. the problem with the logs is these are his pilots putting the names of people on the plane and sometimes they're just listed by two females or a.l. and g.m., they're just listing them by initials. so even the logs are suspect because, i mean, we don't know whether they're accurate or...

Defense and maintain his innocence publicly. anna schechter has been covering this case closely and was outside the courtroom yesterday. we know he made the instagram post, said he didn't think it was staff hairs, blamed it on somebody on his staff but he's also out at gun ranges with conspiracy theorists. >> every single day there has been something on his social media or on info wars. he's invoked the, quote unquote, deep state on almost a daily basis, portraying himself as a victim and mule are as a hitman. it was surprising that the judge called the hearing for the next day. it moved quick...

-- system. >> the presumption of guilt against white attackers wearing m maga masks. once again everybody is rushing out, l it was this or whatever happened in that covington, kentucky case or the cavanaugh stories coming out one after another and by the end it was spiked punch lines. everybody on twitter just jumping to conclusions instead of sitting back and waiting for the facts. >> look, i think the person who is allegedly to blame here is jussie smollett, who allegedly made up this abominable story, wasted a thousand hours of