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And he can essentially do whatever he wants. certainly there are new details in there. most of it is really information and stuff that we have bee hearing for the last several months from the legal team. rudy giuliani has been talking about some of this. it seems that their position hasn't really changed. the other thing is it is clear that mueller is not buying any of this because they are still negotiating a sit down and fighting over this sit down and whether or not mueller is going to enforce it. we know in march there were indications that mueller threatened to subpoena the president. >> ...

Having a government like ours. because it will be too late if we let this guy become a complete tyrant. it's only a tyrant or a dictator who is utterly above the law. we have heard that kind of rhetoric in the past from nixon, who said, if the president does it, that means it's not illegal. this comes very close to that. >> the president's legal team wrote that the president's prime function as the chief executive ought not be hampered by request for interview, having him testify demeans the office of the president before the world. how do you think then a legal fight over a subpoena could pla...

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Is not much we the people can do about it. eric: president nixon was subpoenaed for the watergate tapes. here is another paragraph. the president's prime function as the chief executive ought not be hampered. having him testify demeans the office of the president. does the demean argument go any place with you? >> not with this president. if you look at his twitter feed since january he has done a pretty good job himself of demeaning the office. that was a good argument with george w. bush or george h.w. bush. eric: a lot of people will howl over that comment saying he's demeaning the office. ...