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What's around the corner could be surprising. ask your doctor about eliquis. >> rick: a man hunt underway in tennessee for an extremely dangerous escape inmate. investigators warning folks that curtis watson may have changed his appearance after escaping prison. happened at the west tennessee state penitentiary in henning about 40 miles north and east of memphis. investigators say the con might have killed a prison administrator in her home on the prison grounds and escape on a tractor. david roush is the director of the tbi. what do we need to know about this guy? >> i think you stated it, he...

Went away? >> honestly, i wouldn't have given you an answer. i would have watched it on the news and went about my business. i didn't know what i know today. i didn't see what i've seen in the last five, six years. and i can tell you every prison administrator, every law professor, they don't know what the system is like. a former lawmaker is on trial for having sex with his sick wife. more on the extraordinary criminal case unfolding this week in an iowa courtroom. . for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this.

Be without him. i don't know the parents status of the administrators and teachers i assume they have kids. >> that's what you're doing to them but we're doing it around the country by the thousands. we're taking first-time low-level, nonviolent drug offenders and giving them 10 and 15 years in prison. nonviolent kids. and then we sit around in washington and we're curious as to why the recidivism rate isn't dropping. why aren't people in the workforce? you're taking them out of the workforce. you're guaranteeing they'll never be in the workforce. don't ask. >> their to say if you and i had th...

Want to bring in bernard kerik, the former head of new york's corrections department and the former police commissioner and also served time in prison. i've heard you talk about it. it sounds odd you were head of the police in new york city and the head of the prisons and still you weren't enlightened as you are now after being an inmate. should it have taken that for you to become enlightened the way you say you are now? >> i think it does take that. a prison administrator, an executive in law enforcement, you don't see the collateral damage that the system causes. you don't see the economic ...

And what kind of struggles of yours do you kind of bring to the screen here? >> i am just so grateful as an actor to be able to play a role that's so multidimensional, that's so profoundly human. as a transwoman of color, i have been so inspired by all the trans folks all over the country and all over the world who have reached out to me saying they have seen themselves in sofia's story and i'm so proud to be a vessel for this message. >> and you certainly have humanized it. that's one of the hallmarks of this show, which is just, i imagine for both of you, fantastic that it has become a bigge...