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>> this place does have a psychological effect over a period of time. being locked up 23 hours a day in the windowless cell. makes or breaks you. it's hard. it's real hard, you forget how to communicate. how to social interact. i refuse to lose touch with humanity. when you lose that. that's it. you're transformed from a human being to a prison being. and i refuse to be a prison being. >> today we're going to interview inmate chris tore trotter. he has served the better part of the last ten years on administrative segregation. and there is some staff members involved with the review status. wh...

Like he has the demeanor to stay calm and focused in the face of cross-examination because of his outbursts in court earlier. jon: and, dan, just for the viewers who might not know, if you're whitey bulger, why do you not want to go to prison being, you know, carrying the reputation as a rat? >> first of all, it undermines his whole career in organized crime. he won't be known as someone who was this boss and was very powerful, but someone who undermined his own colleagues, the people who worked with him, the people who committed crimes with him. they'll say that he went with the fb with i and...