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Pardon me? >> especially bad experiences. >> especially -- well, the bad is relative. right? was my prison experience bad? yep. was it good? yep. i mean, you're here only because i went to prison. i wouldn't have met you otherwise. >> it feels a little bit like you're picking, choosing, which experiences we're talking about here in terms of the struggles you went through. it wasn't just about prison. it was about -- >> let me ask you, and i appreciate this question, what determines bad? >> what happened in the sweat lodge seems bad to people. >> so you're saying that death is objectively bad. ...

Get because i owe you so much. >> thank you, buddy. that means a lot. >> i love your spin on everything now. >> hi, karen, thank you for coming and appreciate you coming. >> how do you expand awareness? there's only one way. pardon me? >> especially bad experiences. >> well, the bad is relative, right? was my prison experience bad? yep. was it good? yep. i mean, you are here only because i went to prison. >> yeah. >> i wouldn't have met you otherwise. >> it feels a little like you are picking and choosing what you are talking about here in terms of the struggles you went through, and it was no...

>> i love your spin on everything now. >> hi, karen, thank you for coming and appreciate you coming. >> how do you expand awareness? there's only one way. pardon me? >> especially bad experiences. >> well, the bad is relative, right? was my prison experience bad? yep. was it good? yep. i mean, you are here only because i went to prison. >> yeah. >> i wouldn't have met you otherwise. >> it feels a little like you are picking and choosing what you are talking about here in terms of the struggles you went through, and it was not just about prison -- >> i appreciate this question, and let me ask y...

Prison. the name of the project is orient heights. the building i grew up in is 191, fairwood ave. >> everything that i got is a prison tattoo, actually. >> i heard somewhere prison tattoos are like the prison experience. it hurts when you're getting them, it's bloody, some scabs and bruises but when it's all healed up and it's all said and done, there's something left over. >> nice back piece, ain't it? get your back piece on camera, baby! huh? showing off your work, son. >> yeah? >> huh? >> there's better tattoo artists in prison than there are out on the street. >> where did you get those t...

Someone. >> but mico doesn't see himself as a pimp so much as a protector and guardian angel to lost and wayward souls. >> because i'm more -- ever since i experienced the prison experience, since i've been out, i've been totally on a spiritual path. >> yeah, i kind of see myself as like the kwai chang caine of the adult entertainment industry. if you know who that is, that was a kung fu master from a series back in the '70s. i try to show those that are lost, i try to guide them back into the light. i try to teach them martial arts and transcendental meditation, yoga and stuff like that. any ...