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Five years, not good at all. a lot of these guys are not mentally stable, and they need some type of psychiatric treatment instead of this hole time. you know what i'm saying? >> you want to play some chess, man? >> he's trying to communicate with another inmate to play chess with him. and they'll do it verbally through the vent system. >> all right, hold on. >> we play by calling out the numbers, like 12 to 28, 52 to 36. he has to have the same type of board, set up 1 through 64. >> 12, 28, man. >> i think most inmates don't want to go to segregation. it's not a pleasant place to live. you ge...

Gangs are the biggest danger to security. >> what people don't realize is that almost everything that happens in a prison setting has some sort of gang involvement. whether it be extortions, intimidations, trafficking, narcotics. there's nothing that goes on that at least one gang member is not involved with, nothing. >> robbie marshall is in charge of monitoring the gang activity inside the prison. >> i believe we have about 455 confirmed or suspected security threat group members out of 2,000, and that's just the ones that we know about. right now our probably most radical group is our white...

You see what i'm saying? and it's easier for them to ten-four for them, and you can give them two or three cigarettes or a pack of coffee. and some of them know what you're doing. and they don't care. and that's why i tell you, some police is down with the inmates and some police that is against inmates. so -- >> some are against gays. >> some of them really don't like gays. >> in a prison setting, those things we have to discourage. and one reason we have to discourage is people have been here for a long time. and sometimes some of the boundaries get clouded between the women. >> some of the ...

Yeah, there's one right there. nine times out of ten, they just give me what i want, i don't have to play them. >> because there are penalties for having sex in prison, inmates will sometimes cover for other inmates to allow them a private moment. >> like i say, chelsea, ten-four for me and my girlfriend while we go in here. because she's going to fall down and have a seizure. >> that's another inmate ten-fouring for another inmate while they have sex with their lover. some of us been together here four years, some of us been together five years, some of us have been together a long time. you ...

Bit better than a particular inmate in the prison setting. >> did you have a problem going back out to that particular housing unit? refusing a celly? >> like i said, i was out there, never got in any trouble while i was out there. me personally, it's like if i don't know anything about you, i'm just trying to do my time and go home. i didn't mess with them. i never downtalked to them. i never picked on them. i just went over there and let everybody know that they might be. but this individual started telling me about his case, and i got my pictures on my wall of my little girl and little boy....