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The right intention but look at a law that says let people out even if they're charged with assaults, burglary and staung. the hands will be tied legally even if they want to do the right thing because of the nature of the new york bail reform laws. >> benjamin: it will become a big issue. the defund the police movements. members of the squad saying over the next 10 years we should release everyone in prisons. how big of a role do you think it will play in the public's perception? >> they are releasing everyone from prison thing is signs that mental illness reaches everyone including congress....

On the other end of the line is cody, a man convicted of first-degree murder. >> i have a prepaid call from an inmate -- >> some folks may say well, he is not like everybody else because he is in prison. >> hi, how are you? >> hi, honey. >> but he is still a human being. and the prison thing for me, it just isn't a deal breaker. >> as a teenager, cody got involved with drugs. in 2006, after a crack deal went awry, he made local news for setting fire to the dealer's home. unbeknownst to cody, an elderly man was sleeping inside and died from his injuries. cody was sentenced to life with the poss...

On the other end of the line is cody, a man convicted of first-degree murder. >> i have a prepaid call from an inmate. >> some folks say he is not like everybody else. he's in prison. >> hi, honey. >> he's still a human being. the prison thing for me is not a deal breaker. >> as a teenager, cody got involved in drugs and after a crack deal went a wry, he made local news by setting fire to the dealer's home. undenounced to cody, an elderly man was sleeping inside and died from his injuries. he was sentenced to life with the possibility of parole. when he met shelby he was five years into his ti...

That is a realistic way to run a prison. apparently one of the accomplices rewired the electrical box in the cell that he was detained in so we could cook beef in his cell. at what point does someone not smell the burger meat cooked in the jail in that is a stoppeding. >> they redid things in the cell they took him behind the cell in the catwalk area so he could get to the source of the electricity and rewire that. what did he do back there? this is absurd and someone has to get a grip on the prison thing and figure out they are there for a reason. >> apparently it is nothing new. prisoners ar...

Gay is a choice because, a lot of people go to prison straight and come out gay. just let that marinate for a minute. making him a long shot to win the gop nomination. what are they hoping to accomplish? we have senior political writer with buzz feed. he joins the panel here. genevieve, jackie the prison thing always throws me. you've travelled with donald trump a little more than a year ago. i believe you wrote -- you wrote that covering trump's various stunts and inflammatory comments feels increasingly like a chore akin to dawning a network brand parka during a snowstorm and shotting to the...