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Relevant. >> what is interesting about that, is this is not a situation where he would have attorney client privilege because it is not a conversation with the president himself. no privilege between, you know, attorney john dowd and the attorney for manafort or attorney for gates. and he would know that going in this is not a privilege conversation. >> i don't think there is any question, if i can interject, that mueller is now in a position to call john dowd into his shop and question him extensively. and yes, the president of the united states has almost absolute powers to pardon and can do...

Was no collusion in the russian investigation. >> is that why he tried to fire the special counsel? >> not contemplating the firing. if he thought there was no collusion and sat down with the white house counsel and in a private conversation, the president in a privilege conversation with his attorney. i did go to harvard law school. i know a privilege conversation. i know he had interlopers in the white house last june that were leaking information on him that was very unfair. you're telling me your president is not allowed to have a confidential conversation with the whoit house counsel? >> ...

Know sort of protected conversations between each other. i would not want every word that i speak to kim or my brother, it is important to know the context and people speak in shorthand sometimes. sometimes they are joking and you know, it is difficult to know exactly what is meant particularly in an e-mail. i do find it alarming that things that were intended to be sort of privileged and not a privilege conversation, a private conversation. >> kim, what is this election about to you? >> i think it is about in many ways of the fabric of what our country is. you know , katy, 200 years is nt a l...