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Revealed to have staffed, quote, el bedded in the cdc. the firm was apparently hired during the pandemic to encourage americans to get vaccinated and now people are wondering if a major conflict of interest has been fly under radar. to break it down with me we have fox's medical contributor doctor thanks so much for joining. you know our audience trust you and i had to have you on because this seems just so shady, it is a major conflict about are right? >> lawrence, this is beyond a conflict of interest. what's the number one priority of pharmaceutical companies it is profit. so -- >> money. e...

Revealed to have staffed, quote, el bedded in the cdc. the firm was apparently hired during the pandemic to encourage americans to get vaccinated and now people are wondering if a major conflict of interest has been fly under radar. to break it down with me we have fox's medical contributor doctor thanks so much for joining. you know our audience trust you and i had to have you on because this seems just so shady, it is a major conflict about are right? >> lawrence, this is beyond a conflict of interest. what's the number one priority of pharmaceutical companies it is profit. so -- >> money. e...

Elie, you predicted it could go this way. the judge said i'll get to it later. >> welcome to federal courts where judges have life tenure and do whatever they want whenever they want. the judge will hear arguments and take whatever time she wants to issue a written ruling. it could come within an hour, later today, tonight, tomorrow, any day, weekend, labor day, next week, you name it. this is the mercy that litigants are at in front of federal judges. she's heard the argument, has the briefs, and now we await the ruling. >> i want you to weigh in on that gem that kara reported that the trump ...

Do through there is a potential john dean whistleblower or whistleblowers that could have a similar impact? >> well i know a number of people i know have made public statements and had different candidates. it's a rough road to hoe. i don't know if any of the lawyers who were involved in the trump white house and know exactly what was going on are going to step forward. i think they should. there is something called a -- a fraud crime exception that lawyers do not privilege information when they're engaged in a crime fraud situation. so, i think there is some of that. and i wish some of those ...

In these depositions done with a court reporter under oath which attorneys are allowed to ask any question they want as long as it's not privilege information, bleeds, all sorts of potential areas of corruptions where they have to give answers to questions. and the thing we used to love as prosecutors, we used to just sit back and love when there was a civil suit filed because all sorts of information were coming through when the depositions that otherwise in the court world we would not be able to get because those individuals had the right to remain silent. this is a devastating blow. they'l...