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But what it does do is make insensitivity. when you have a platform, an opportunity to talk about these issues whether they happened yesterday or in the past, if necessary to do it instead of just pushing it off and saying it's no big deal. >> laura: eric dyson political analyst had an interesting comment about the privilege issue and the blackface issue, let's watch. >> this shows the vast reaches of ignorance, unconsciousness that many white people have and are allowed to have. when we talk about white privilege, people say i don't understand it. the fact you don't have to know about blackfa...

Foundationally what's ahead of him. the issue, however, is that relates as i said to people who were part of his cabinet. it wouldn't necessarily relate to an interpreter or somebody who spoke to this person with a third person in the room meaning vladimir putin. it goes away in terms of the privileges. like if you had attorney/client privilege and you had someone who was neither the attorney or the client in the room. the privilege issue goes away. now it's the idea of the other side of the coin. and that's one of the reasons that congress can come in and for the reasons you're talking about ...

Testify what was said. how likely is that? >> well, you know, it's likely in the sense that it's like an executive privilege. executive privilege is essentially you have to keep secret and confidential in private communications between the president of the united states and people who are part of his cabinet. you want that because you want the president to have candid conversations to get the advice that steve was talking about to be able to be briefed and be able to understand foundationally what's ahead of him. the issue, however, is that relates as i said to people who were part of his cabi...

Now? >> it's possible that mueller could want to talk to him again, although i was astounded when i heard how much time he spent with them. i suspect they pretty much covered everything from a to z with him already, and most likely, they're done, unless new leads develop that they have to follow. i do think that the privilege issue in terms of his executive privilege doesn't go directly to the president, would still be there. there could be an argument that he waived it, but i think if there was a sensitive issue, they would probably try to have him reassert that. originally, it seems odd that...

Is better to keep them in discrete buckets but we really don't know. >> all right, carol leonnig thank you for being with me. daniel goldman and legal analyst barbara mckwaede. i don't understand what michael cohen is doing from a legal perspective. this is not the way i would handle it. you guys are people that used to be prosecutors, what do you make of what is going on? >> on the privilege issue, the only thing that makes sense is the special master signaled to trump and cohen, that she was going to find that this