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Were promulgated. and he's somebody who's not going to have any sort of serious legal chance at shielding himself from testifying based on these privilege issues. so he is likely to be a key figure for the committee to pressure and someone who won't have a very strong ability to push back. >> that's an important point. i've got a member of congress to standby and talk about this breaking news with us. members of the proud bois and oath keepers, do we have a sense how many have been charged and going through sort of the process now on the criminal side as it relates to federal law enforcement? ...

He said all hell would break loose on january 6th and he was right. ask the 140 capitol police officers who fought for hours and were injured, and there no doubt that steve bannon knows far more than he says on that video. the american people deserve to know what happened. they deserve to hear him answer these questions. mr. bannon has written to us suggesting he's relying on the fact that president trump wishes to assert executive privilege for his communications with bannon regarding the planning for january 6th. we do not believe any such privilege claims are appropriate, and even such priv...

Questions you can answer or not. so i got stuck in the middle of one of these privilege issues. these are higher ranking staffers than i was. as mr. gergen knows, there is a tradition of them not having to comply with these types of subpoenas. it doesn't always work. in the case of harriet miers case, the court ruled against her. but there is the office of legal opinion from the doj -- >> if only john dean were here. we could talk about. >> but putting that aside, would you like to hear from them? as a citizen, would you like the hear what they have to say? >> i will give you -- i'm torn, beca...

People suddenly telling the same story? different pieces of the story. and they all match. >> that's true. but i think it's always important to remember that impeachment is a political process much more than a legal process. in trying to sort out evidence into different categories, i mean, it's interesting, but i think ultimately what matters is what persuades politicians and the voters who elect them. you know, it is, of course, outrageous that republicans are complaining about the absence of hearing trump's words when the people who heard trump's words are not being allowed to testify. >> sc...

Again as another matter of privilege, can they be called? it seems those two individuals should be before this committee. >> youp it's difficult to contemplate there's not a connection just because of the time line. i did hear the dni testify today that coates and gordon, neither one was familiar with the facts of this whistle-blower complaint. but i think there's a lot more there that we need to understand. certainly they can be subpoenaed, they should be subpoenaed. one suspects the white house will try to claim the same privilege that they've claimed with other witnesses, and it will be up ...