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>> -- probably withstand appeal. >> talk about how unusual a case like this is, this contempt of congress case and the difficulty of trying a case like this. >> you know, is highly unusual, but it's also extremely important because if you let individuals make their own decisions about whether they will or will not comply with lawfully issued subpoenas, whether they are congressional subpoenas, grand jury subpoenas, trial subpoenas, then the entire system just falls apart. congress could accomplish nothing if witnesses if witnesses -- -- if you would stand by, we want to head over...

of the bravery of 25-year-old cassidy hutchinson, who spoke truth to power, who spoke the truth, who spoke, despite the fact that many much older, much more experienced men, were too weak and too shrivelled to be able to speak out about what happened behind closed doors in the trump white house leading up to -- >> did she say that? is willie here? >> let me tell you something -- >> willie -- i don't know that -- >> she mentioned there's more than one woman who spoke out and was able to do that. >> right. >> compared to these pathetic men. >> it's okay. i don't think she used the word...

Up to the capitol, could i be charged with crimes, you're my lawyer or you're the white house's lawyer, i mean, that discussion about what a crime is, what a crime is not, what legal jeopardy he might face when he's seeking the advice of an attorney, a white house attorney, that would likely be privileged under any scenario, right? >> when you give legal advice and you're not trying to use it to commit a crime, it's typically privileged. that's right. people get frustrated. i think you're right. they don't understand how privilege works. as a former prosecutor, i saw instances where people tri...

Analyst. specifically for the questions and the tdocuments and records requested thus far, that's not a blanket response. at some point it's possible that they could. >> of course, and that's the way privilege works. you know, it would never apply to a whole class of documents or every word that came out of someone's mouth. what lawyers for the parties, you know, the former president and the current president would do is go through each document, all of the materials, and identify what would be subject to privilege. if they were asserting it, it wouldn't be the case that the biden administrati...

And i think law school professors will teach entire semester news on the new made-up privileges that the trump administration as cited in this investigation. >> yes. and hong they actually last. >> that's right. >> how many hours that privilege works. congressman eric swalwell, please feel free to join us thursday night and let us know how it goes with steve bannon on thursday. >> thank you, lawrence. >> thank you. coming up, robert mueller will hear everything that bannon will have to say that is what the daily beast is reporting tonight. a special prosecutor has subpoenaed steve bannon to ...