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And delivered to the people that you serve. when justice ginsburg passed and we saw amy cohen barrett on the horizon, we got serious about what tools could i used to preserve a woman's right to make her own decisions around her body. in michigan, we were poised to go from being a proud pro choice state to a state that would go back 91 years making is a felony, no exceptions. so i use every tool in my tool box, because of that, it empowered this initiative to a matter of constitution, which was critical in this election that just happened a week ago. now, in michigan, we have enshrined these ri...

To the people that you serve. when justice ginsburg passed and we saw amy cohen barrett on the horizon, we got serious about what tools could i use to preserve a woman's right to make her own decisions around her body. in michigan, we were poised to go from being a proud pro choice state to a state that would go back 91 years making is a felony, no exceptions. so i use every tool in my tool box, because of that, it empowered this initiative to a matter of constitution, which was critical in this election that just happened a week ago. now, in michigan, we have enshrined these rights into our s...

Abortion. if you want to reduce abortion, you do what we did here in colorado, which is provide free birth control and good information to women. we actually cut the teen birth and abortion rate in colorado, a pro choice state, by providing reversible contraception. so if her organization is serious about trying to improve women's health care, i'd suggest she get behind those efforts. >> i think that's not the issue. >> ladies, hold on. this is a critical issue, obviously, you two are never going to agree on abortion being pro life or pro choice. but what i am asking, laura, is about the rheto...

Constitutional amendment that would ban all abortions. a personhood amendment. >> and ivf and certain forms of birth control. it is so extensive that the state of mississippi -- i always feel like mississippi voters turn this down and they are not a pro choice state. >> it's sort of an intractable political problem for them. they really want richard mourdock in the senate and stuff like that. >> it's not just a gaffe issue. that's the thing that people connected with. it wasn't a stumble over words. it was a statement of philosophy that was coming over and over again on various things. you kno...

Guy in massachusetts, which is tough, which is a pro choice state, i know the guy. he's doing what he believes. he believes that it is better for the pro life cause to have an opportunity tore poor women to get birth control when they want it. when it's a choice for them, too. >> i think you're pointing out that there is something of a cleavage within the pro life ç community. there are some who are really committed primarily and centrally and maybe only to the notion of reducing abortions. there are others in that community who are obviously against abortion but are also interested in polic...