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>> mike: aaron, very quickly, we have talked about what happens if there is a more pro-democratic egypt. what happens if egypt is taken over by radicals, if it does become yet another nation falling into the hands of jihadists? what does that mean for the relationship with the united states and with israel? >> well, that i think you really do get a cataclysm. the muslim brotherhood i don't think they have the capacity of taking over the country, but they have been calling for a referendum. a popular vote on the peace treaty with israel. so they will be more influential. should an islamic group...

>> mike: aaron, very quickly, we have talked about what happens if there is a more pro-democratic egypt. what happens if egypt is taken over by radicals, if it does become yet another nation falling into the hands of jihadists? what does that mean for the relationship with the united states and with israel? >> well, that i think you really do get a cataclysm. the muslim brotherhood i don't think they have the capacity of taking over the country, but they have been calling for a referendum. a popular vote on the peace treaty with israel. so they will be more influential. should an islamic group...

>> mike: aaron, very quickly, we have talked about what happens if there is a more pro-democratic egypt. what happens if egypt is taken over by radicals, if it does become yet another nation falling into the hands of jihadists? what does that mean for the relationship with the united states and with israel? >> well, that i think you really do get a cataclysm. the muslim brotherhood i don't think they have the capacity of taking over the country, but they have been calling for a referendum. a popular vote on the peace treaty with israel. so they will be more influential. should an islamic group...

You act like a real political party you can get the benefits. megyn: isn't that our worse nightmare if they act like a political party and get elected? >> if they do perform that way then they should be permitted to contest the election. i don't think they will agree to that because that gives up the essence of what they are. megyn: is there any way the united states can come out of this in as good as or even better a position than we are in right now? >> i think the position we are in right now is given hundreds of thousands of demonstrators in the street is the economy paralyzed in egypt and...

Savings of civilian life. but in any event, i think now with gadhafi dead -- how we don't know at this point -- the question is what his followers will do in efforts at national reconciliation. and i think it's very important for the united states and be our western european allies to work to help empower pro-democratic, pro-western leaders among all the various libyan tribes and factions. because it's highly uncertain now what the successor regime will look like. we should have expended more effort before, but looking ahead we should do whatever's necessary to make sure that the successor reg...