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Relationship with the european union. we are really peaceful people. but the new generation is, of course, pro—democratic, the new generation know how we can live if we have a normal government. if we have normal management, our people wouldn't live in poverty in our country. but you said to me at the very beginning of this interview that putin's invasion of ukraine has changed everything. and i understand what you're saying, because it seems to me it's changed the nature of the decision that belarusian people have to make about their future. they may say that freedom and democracy involves ...

Democracy in our country and then ask people, "what do you want?" because before the war started, there were polls where people responded that about 60% of people wanted a good relationship with russia, and the same 60% wanted a good relationship with the european union. we are really peaceful people. but the new generation is, of course, pro—democratic, the new generation know how we can live if we have a normal government. if we have normal management, our people wouldn't live in poverty in our country. but you said to me at the very beginning of this interview that putin's invasion of ukr...

After a hybrid attack with the help of migrants that lukashenko did in august, he didn't pay at all for this crime. you know, no powerful sanctions. nothing happened. of course he feels impunity. of course he understands that he can do everything. people are repressed in belarus. people are scared because every moment kgb people can enter yourflat and kidnap yourfather, brother, or whoever and you can't do anything. are you allowed to speak to your husband at all right now? because he's been sentenced to 18 years in prison. political prisoners in belarus are isolated. they don't have opportuni...

Of ukraine has changed everything. and i understand what you're saying, because it seems to me it's changed the nature of the decision that belarusian people have to make about their future. they may say that freedom and democracy involves turning westward, but they may also see for themselves that if they make that decision, the reality is russia, putin, will bring terrible retribution upon them and will seek to control them by military force. so there's a new, stark choice facing your people. which way will they go? i think people now understand that there is a possibility two of the second ...

And in the popular protests that followed, you had to flee with your children, and i believe you're now spending most of your time in lithuania, but you're travelling the world trying to tell your message to the international community about lukashenko. how would you say you have succeeded in terms of rallying the international community against lukashenko�*s continued rule of your country? you know, i'm sure that belarus united a lot of countries, united parties, united people, because for this year—and—a—half of our fight, we saw such unity of actions against lukashenko�*s regime. ...