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I do not decide cases on the personal preferences. i'm not a pro plaintiff or a pro defendant judge. i'm not a pro prosecution or pro defense judge. i'm a pro law judge. >> martha: a show of independence supreme court justice brett kavanaugh to side with the four living justice on the round. opting not to hear a case that called for the defunding of the planned parenthood in some state medicaid proms in louisiana -- programs in louisiana. chief john roberts voted against hearing the case but the conservative justices thomas, alito and gorsuch criticized the move by kavanaugh. joining me now is...

Personal or policy preferences. i am not a pro plaintiff or pro defendant judge. i'm not a pro prosecution or pro defense judge. i am a pro-law judge. so my question is can he really say that and can we believe it after he said that the left was taking revenge on what happened with the clintons and it was all animosity toward president trump? >> he also said what goes around comes around. sew said a lot of things that i think were very concerning. the thing that's particularly concerning about this claim about retribution for what happened to the clintons is that it's just totally nuts. there'...

For his family, for the senate, it's been emotional for the country. it has been -- it's demonstrated the cultural shift. it's hit with this social change that we're seeing that many would argue has come way too late and isn't complete. all of this -- all these forces i think are together in a crucible that make none of this normal and i don't think you can take any one incident and say, gosh, this is odd. maybe we shouldn't do it this way. >> i just want to get to some of what he said in his op-ed, kiersten. he writes, i do not decide cases based on personal or policy preferences. i am not a ...

September 11th? because the law compelled it. justice kennedy showed us in the texas versus johnson case. we don't make decisions based on who people are or their policy preferences or the moment. we base decisions on the law. justice kennedy's example of independence is something that i have tried to follow. and it means you are not a pro -- as i said yesterday, not a pro plaintiff, pro defense, pro prosecution or pro defense judge. i'm a pro law judge. that is part of being an independent judge is ruling for the party no matter who they are so long as the party is right. if you walk into my ...

Parkland school shooting victim who says brett kavanaugh brushed him off when he introduced himself the white house says the judge escorted by security didn't know who he was, kavanaugh's opponents plan to pepper him about gun rights and abortion rights rulings and where he stands on investigating a sitting president. democrats furious the white house has not released more documents about kavanaugh's work under former president george w. bush. >> what are we trying to hide? why are we rushing? >> reporter: republicaning deryeing it all as political pastureing. >> still disappointed it's not hi...