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They say there's no clarity yet that governor walker's budging move at this point. they say the moves are confusing and suspicious and they're right to be suspicious. we heard the governor talking about his strategy for tricking the democrats to come back to the state capitol on the prank phone call when he thought he was talking to david koch, the oil and chemical billionaire. as a wisconsin senate democrats continue to be cautious and don't claim victory, it should be noted that implications nationally of the democrats winning the fight in wisconsin should probably wait for a bit. that would...

If you think republican governors across the country are using fiscal crisis as a pretext to do stuff they otherwise want to do, this is something i don't think i would have ever believed republicans want to do. this is what they are proposing. hasn't gotten much national attention. check it out. rick snyder's budget in michigan is expected to cut aid to cities and towns so much that a lot of cities and towns in michigan are expected to be in dire financial straights. right now, governor snyder is pushing a bill that would give himself, governor snyder and his administration, the power to decl...

He is a guy who's been around the budgets, who has had to deal with these issues and like his democratic counter part brings a lot of weight to the debate and the discussion, and really kind of moves the agenda forward on something that i think everybody in this country is looking to move forward on, and that's bipartisan ship, or more importantly, consensus on what's the best thing to do. alan simpson is the guy to help us do that. >> i think enema man, snoopy snoop changes the character. >> it is a good move by the president. >> all right. fair enough. let me ask you about that whole issue a...

About how much healthcare costs they pay for. everything republicans wanted in terms of fiscal concessions from people that work for the state, they got them. public employees conceded. they gave republicans everything they asked for in terms of paid give backs, pension, healthcare, everything with budget impact, the public employees gave up right away, right at the outset. if it was really about the budget, then those concessions would have sort of solved the problem. would have been enough. but it is not about the budget. and so instead we have had 22 days of protests over what? over the stu...

I promise you, as if this was some story about the budget. as if this was a fight about whether or not wisconsin is going to be able to balance its budget. when the stories are inevitably written, they will be wrong. this was never about the budget. as soon as scott walker was sworn in, td very first day, he called special session of the state legislature which ultimately passed four pieces of legislation that he favored. collectively, those four pieces of legislation will end up making the state budget deficit in wisconsin $140 million worse, not better, worse. that was governor walker's firs...