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It began with an offer for dirt and by many accounts, ended up as a frustrating 20-minute conversation about sanctions and adoptions. then what were the russians up to? a man who set it up has a theory. >> do you agree with national security officials, both prior and current, who believe that this meeting was a probe set up by the russian government of the trump campaign in. >> i've always looked at it as a bait and switch. >> goldstone cease he thinks the offer of incriminating information was made just to get in the room. >> it was a dirty offer. >> yes. >> it was a dirty offer that they acc...

Advisers who have strong backgrounds in legal analysis. when he sees them on the screen, he reacts very differently. >> all right, thank you both. great conversation. both have a great weekend. >> thank you. now to an nbc news exclusive with rob goldstone, the man who helped to organize the infamous june 2016 trump tower meeting between donald trump junior and a russian lawyer. he offered don junior information that would increment hillary and dealings with russia. he was referring of course to hillary clinton. goldstone sat down with our cynthia mcfadden for a wide-ranging interview, and am...

Ooh i should clean your gutters! great idea. it's not just easy. it's geico easy. todd, you will go make me a frittata. we got a lot to cover. new this morning, rod goldstone, essentially responsible for setting up the now infamous trump tower meeting is now talking to nbc in a fair interview that will air on "today." he's offering insight into the planning of the meeting. watch this. >> do you agree with national security officials both prior and current who believe that this meeting was a probe set up by the russian government of the trump campaign to see whether they'd be willing to do bu...

Incriminate dealings with hillary with donald trump jr. he is talking about how he sees that offer, now. >> do you agree with national security officials, prior and current, who believe that this meeting was a probe set up by the russian government of the trump campaign to see whether they would be willing to do business with them? >> i've always looked at it in a slightly different way. i have always looked at it as a bait and switch. >> and possibly a crime. >> possibly a crime. >> it was a dirty offer. >> yes. >> it was a dirty offer that they accepted. >> yes, that is true. it didn't mater...