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Neither side will bow to that if they can help it. the re -- republicans are most likely to track. don't you guys think we're into next week? >> i do. and i think that eventually, one way out of this might be to wrap it all into the question of the debt ceiling and find someway to raise the debt ceiling and avert armageddon on that and temporary fund the government while they work out the rest of this, the rest of this stuff. >> all right. >> it's one negotiation instead of two but the question, anderson, the 20 house republicans, 30 driving this go home to districts. the president lost by 20 ...

Default. he'll talk how that might freeze up credit for companies around the country harkening back to what happened to the country when the financial crisis hit in 2008. i think we'll hear the president say that and he made the comment today in the interview with cnbc that wall street has to worry this time. this is not like last time around or past crisis in this town, that there is really a reason to worry here. we heard that from wall street ceos that came out of a meeting with the president today so in addition to see the president and what he has to say at this event tomorrow, anderson, ...

Government shut down and they want to try to put the blame back on democrats for not at least funding some of the most visible, some of the most heart wrenching areas of the government. we talked about clinical trials, that's a great example. the house passed a bill to fund the national institute of health, harry reid said no, i'm not going to do that today because he said i'm not going to take one for the other. i'm not going to put one group against the other and that does put democrats in a difficult position but standing firm saying all or nothing. >> congressman matt salmon is deep in the...