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Wouldn't be effective here, for a variety of reasons we could spend the whole segment talk about. >> tucker: is a moral? >> no. because i think the people coming into israel are blowingpl people up in a way the immigrants are helping pick our food. that's the difference. >> tucker: some are picking food, some are committing crimes. israel built the wall because they want to know who is coming over from the territories because it's it's country. this is our country, so it is not a moral when they do it, but it is immoral when we do it. a fence is okay but a wall is not okay. >> what is immoral ...

To shining sea. >> tucker: here is the point, whatever we are doing does not work. you know as well as i that the fear with the wall as it will work, and will prevent voters from coming over from latin america to bolster the fortunes of a party that actual americans don't really like that much, which is the democratic party. >> that's a caricature. >> tucker: what's the real answer than? >> it's not that. even the bill that the democrats passed. it would have passed the house, incidentally and had 15 republican votes in the senate, called for a very protracted period of time before people who ...

Particular, we took a position last night, tucker, we support t the president, $5 billion for the border, and let's reform asylum laws while we are at it, that will address the problem.si >> tucker: for frustrated viewers watching at home wondering why the centralre promise of the campaign still remains unfulfilled, was it the speaker of the house, paul ryan, who prevented this from happening for the last two year years? >> our leadership not pushing hard enough and paul not pushin? hard enough, and also democrats are for open borders, they want to abolish i.c.e. their party's champion in the ...

Their elections, let democracy have its will. the american people have a way, if they do it right, they do it again. they make a mistake, they take it back. >> tucker: you have been a democrat, appearing on this show, they have to be people -- you must talk to democrats still, of course you do. they have to be some in town who think, we have a lot of power pretty soon, and the standards we have set may be applied to us, and maybe that is not a good thing. is anyone thinking that through? >> most people are thinking get trump. it is pretty clear the prosecutors who got cohen on tax evasion and ...

When he worked for the clintons, how dumb would you have to be to allow another special counsel investigation to unfold? will any president in american history allow a special counsel investigation? >> the clintons were very upset they agreed to that special counsel in the first place because of what happened. trump never agreed to it. the irony here is congress left the statute lapse so they would never be another independent counsel. and then rosenstein created this creature that didn't have judicial supervision to go ahead and have free reign to go after the president. >> tucker: totally ex...