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Survival of the exchanges. what's important is how many people have enrolled in the exchanges and what's the mix of the people in those exchanges. oregon has enrolled all of 44 people in its exchange, and that is across different plans. you cannot run a health insurance market with just 44 people in it. another problem is that oregon, according to american commitment, they wrap some number -- ran some numbers and estimated oregon has now spent almost $7 million just per person on its exchange just to end roll those 44 people. obamacare was supposed to reduce the administrative costs of buying ...

We're up against a hard break. we hope to have you back on the show and encourage viewers to check out your blog. we appreciate it. we'll talk much more about a lot of big stories today, including developments around obamacare that is coming up on "happening now."

Politics right now? not just the democrats, but also conservatives and what they do in this moment in our history? >> you know, it's a great question because i think a lot of conservatives are thinking maybe we should just be sitting back and just watching this train wreck like, you know, spend our time rubber necking all the way to the 2014 and 2016 elections as the democrats self-destruct. i don't think the republicans can do that. i think they need to start talking about viable alternatives to supplement or replace obamacare. if they don't do that, people are going to say, well, what's the ...

There are security risks. people could lose personal information and huge amounts of identity theft. that is the immediate crisis. he is facing problems with people having their insurance canceled. this problem only just begun. people were able to renew insurance policies through next year. millions of people will get insurance cancellations before the november 24th elections. that will not be easy for democrats to handle. jon: up until october 1st, or maybe shortly thereafter, alex, the president was wearing obamacare as a man tell of achievement. now it is becomeing a millstone around his ne...

Said would happen, they're not going to be saving as much money, which critics said was going to happen. so eventually, they have to sign up more people through the web site because they almost couldn't sign up fewer. jon: we talked in the last hour, joe, about the president's approval ratings. they are the lowest of his presidency. and so much of his presidency is bullet upon obama -- built upon obamacare. he himself has called it his signature legislative achievement. so if he cannot get this thing fixed, let's say he can. how much time does he have to get those poll numbers back up? >> well...