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And talk trash about conservatives openly and blatantly and their needs to be just a pool that says let's not talk politics at work. on the red carpet. or board shows or onset, at work and everything for everybody would be fine. david: there's a lot to talk about other than politics. i think politics should be deemed less important than it is. thank you for being here. good to see you. millions of americans are living with the burden of student loan debt but a former federal loan official has a plan to fix it, fix what he calls a broken system and he is here next to defend his position and it ...

Hasn't shown up in the numbers for the whole economy. germany already works a lower work week and they're per capita is lower-- >> more than that, it's negative right now. they're in the first stage of recession. >> this is where the study is flawed. singapore has a really good economy, but they work really long hours like americans. americans work long, very little vacation compared to the rest of european countries and it hasn't shown up as like the stock market benefits, profits, companies. it has worker satisfaction. david: i think i get where you're coming from. i'm more clear about where...

So, was there pushback to what mr. taylor said? was there any attempt to cross examine him? >> well, i don't know because i wasn't allowed to be in the room so we don't have a transcript. >> you must have heard about it. >> the republican members of that committee have been complying with the rules and not telling the rest of us about the substance of testimony, but we should get it every day as it occurs, we shouldn't have to wait upon other members of congress to tell us what happened in that room. we should have full access. >> well, a lot of americans do agree, that if this is going to lea...

Business day. david lucas, good to see you, thank you very much. my next guest is one of the republicans who stormed the closed door meeting earlier this week. alabama congressman bradley burn is on the house armed services committee and he joins us now. good to see you, congressman. what were you hoping to accomplish by storming this meeting? meeting? >> two things, as a member of congress i want to see what's going on inside that room. i have a right to see what's going on in that room. secondly, we want to call attention to what the democrats are doing. it's a sham. when i walked in the roo...

Undermined some contentions and made it clear he had second or third hand information rather than the real stuff. >> that's what democrats want to keep it secret that they are not keeping it secret, they are keeping it selectively secret so that people can think if we are seeing this imagine what else there is and allowing imaginations to run wild. on the liberal side, rather than having all the truth and seeing everything because they were so embarrassed by the mueller investigation it looks like the same will happen again. if i had to make a prediction, i'm not a psychic but that would be it...