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Operational part of this. because these private organizations need landing rights. they need to have assurances provided to the transit countries. the transit countries look to the u.s. government to make sure that the refugees are moving on to third countries. and once the refugees get to the third countries, it could take a year before their paperwork is processed. so, we really do need the state department to be part of this pro process, to work with the private organizations. and my understanding is they're trying to get a system in place. but they're literally building the aircraft while ...

Free-flowing process. and i suspect whether it's late tonight or some point tomorrow, this is going to get kind of nasty. >> i was just going to say. is it going to get ugly? are we going to see crazy roberts rules of order arguments? and points of order here and points of order there. and trying to disrupt this process. >> i've had my head in my parliamentary procedure playbook all day, chuck, trying to prepare for this. yeah, i do. i think you're going to see every -- every variety of parliamentary trickeration used here to try to slow this process down, gum it up. and again, you know, for r...

The process started to be politicized. we need to all back the process down, use stop using it for political purposes and use it for what it is designed for, get evidence of wrongdoing so special counsel and prosecutors can all do their jobs. >> dan, count me among those who hadn't seen a whistle-blower account like this before. what does it tell you about the way this individual approached the complaint. what did you make of how it was presented? >> as a very well-written document the the first half all all speaks to stuff i have never really worked on extensively, the impeachment issues, for...

Many people with meritorious claims so if you shut the whole process down -- all we're saying is that there has to be a process. if the administration wants to make the process more efficient, make it more efficient. what they're doing is channelling money to different things at the border wall instead of making the process more official. you can't just shut the process down. >> we have a couple of issues in this whole discussion of asylum because there are meritorious claims and this administration says lots of the claims are not meritorious. so their answer to that, okay, what is broken abou...

Rosenstein before matt whitaker takes over. so if that's the case if they were pipelined if they've already been, the word some would use socialized within the department of justice, which just means gone through and given the green light because bob mueller is not king of the hill. he's not ken starr. he has to report up. >> he has a boss. >> then, sure, those can come forward, but he could, if they have not been socialized in that way, meaning if they have not been approved already by rod rosenstein, essentially what matt whitaker can do is start asking question after question after question...