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Into the atmosphere before you know it existed. we are living inside right now james madson's nightmare, the framer of the constitution, right? he was extremely worried when he was writing the constitution, working on the constitution that our cognitive capacity is we're going to be overwhelmed by the coming rise of the daily newspaper, that once a day delivery of information was too much for us and that one of the things that worked in favor of indirect democracy, representative democracy was geographic dispersal. it took time for people to get information, process information, to think about...

Not yet? >> well, it sounds like this happened pretty quickly. i mean as far as the shooting happened i don't know the length. but one guy i talked to who worked inside building two said that he heard -- you know, he heard gunshots and then just a quick time later- dsh a short time later police had arrived. and he heard what sounded like an exchange of gunfire. again, he did not see this. but it's tough to know. it sounds like police arrived here pretty quickly. i don't have the time frame built up. but, you know, within -- some -- i'm sorry civilians who spoke to like i said paying parking ti...

But i have not been four separate look at the different topics. he was able to lead back to years ago and exactly why he had that specific policy position and what he got in response. so quick and relentless but you look at what he can accomplish with the amount thrown at him i don't think the commendation has happened and where you have this level of commitment with that level of diversity through it and i will say those three examples that you use with the iran and how he listens to the generals and process information to make a decision of the correct decision without having to step into, a...

But i have not been four separate look at the different topics. he was able to lead back to years ago and exactly why he had that specific policy position and what he got in response. so quick and relentless but you look at what he can accomplish with the amount thrown at him i don't think the commendation has happened and where you have this level of commitment with that level of diversity through it and i will say those three examples that you use with the iran and how he listens to the generals and process information to make a decision of the correct decision without having to step into, a...

Astounding thing, particularly when i watched that interview, is he didn't come across as someone who was genuinely upset as a victim of crime because when you are a victim of crime -- and i've worked with a lot of victims of crime as a defense attorney. the number one thing they want is to be believed. and in order to be believed, you will do whatever it is that you are asked of to be believed, such as turning over your cell phone records. >> so here's the other side to that equation. no one victim acts in the same way. >> true. true. >> that's how it will always be explained. we all process ...