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Investigation and now i fully support the impeachment inquiry. is it these set of facts that tipped you over to setting impeachment? >> it is. and chris, i've been reluctant to go down this path. it's an extraordinary remedy and one that the founders i think intended as a last resort since we have periodic elections. but the fact we'd have a president by his own admission and after having sought foreign help in the last election now using the power of his office to once again try and get foreign help by getting ukraine to manufacture dirt on his opponent, i think that compels us to travel down...

My personal life. maybe if i shame you this way and expose it, there's less chance you put them out because now there's this shady context around it. could be a brilliant play. >> well, that is certainly true on a strategic level. but i read through all the material and if you're jeff bezos that's not an attractive thing for the world to have in it's hands. it's gutsy to confront them publicly, because of how shady this looks, the process looks, even though it was washed through lawyers. this falls in the old gerald ford quote, 90% of the lawyers give 10% of us a bad name. these guys are among...

Have already been hurt. people already have that on me. i'm already dealing with it in my personal life. maybe if i shame you this way and expose it, there's less chance you put them out because now there's this shady context around it. could be a brilliant play. >> well, that is certainly true on a strategic level. but i read through all the material and if you're jeff bezos that's not an attractive thing for the world to have in it's hands. it's gutsy to confront them publicly, because of how shady this looks, the process looks, even though it was washed through lawyers. this falls in the ol...

Oath. so it's under the penalty of perjury for all the parties that are witnesses. and i think then in that case that's the way to do this. i think it needs to be fair. again, whether it should be monday or wednesday or whatever the period of time is, look, the supreme court starts its term, what is it, first monday in october, this year it's october 1st. will brett kavanaugh be confirmed by then or not, i don't know. again, because that's not my job here. my job -- i'm looking at this as an observer. i am not giving advice on this obviously. it's not my role. but i think, look, again, needs t...

October, this year it's october 1st. will brett kavanagh be confirmed by then or not, i don't know. again, because that's not my job here. my job -- i'm looking at this as an observer. i am not giving advice on this obviously. it's not my role. but i think, look, again, needs to be done appropriately, needs to be done properly and it needs to get a fair hearing for both. >> for both -- >> for both individuals involved in this. >> absolutely. >> i don't discount the seriousness in this. anybody that is makes a mistake. i also don't think judge kavanagh should be left out there. there needs to b...