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Will have to shape differently the posture of this than what they are now. and republicans to be totally candid with you will have to move away from process questions into more substan is astantive . >> and let me ask you this, would you walk into a scif with your cellphone? >> no, that was -- that was not good. you can highlight what you have some procedural grievances here and the democrats can attack you for putting on a stunt, that is fine. democrats sat on the house floor a couple years ago, that was a stunt. but you cannot take a cellphone into scif. there are like three doors that you h...

Responsibility, and what did the inspector general do here? and doesn't the law say you're obligated to send that to us in congress? and why didn't you? why did you take it to the justice department? was the white house involved? there are all of these process questions, and i think getting answers to them may be very illuminating right now. >> well, jill, 15 seconds. what can adam schiff do? >> i think as barbara and joyce and every other commentator has said, they have to go to court. they have to get court decisions. they have not pursued that as vigorously as i think they can. i think what...

Called who counts. this is a project that you're asking readers to support, to look at who is underrepresented when it comes to voting. what are you all trying to explore? >> i think that we're just responding to the fact that we and other media entities try to do the thing where we wait until the week before an election to say, oh, wow, polling places are shutting? what's going on? vote suppression is happening? folks can't get their i.d.s? we want to start a year out and ask readers to help us understand, gerrymandering, vote suppression, the census case. all the ways in which -- again, you ...

Ask them not to waste their time on that. bob mueller is a person of his word and i'd be shocked if he answers process questions, as troubling as they might have been, if he will answer them instead of sticking to his report. >> you are known to be a very effective storyteller. how would you elicit robert mueller the story of his investigation? >> i would either ask him direct leading questions, to have him affirm key parts of the report, or i would ask him to read lines from the report or both. this is a chance for the american people to learn what he found. too bad having published a 450 pag...

Pass holders at cnn. they actually are one of the individual outlets that has the most hard passes of any news outlet n in the country is cnn. they're one of the top three. so the idea that they aren't able to get information they need from the white house is franklylaughable. >> mike: let me ask you some process questions. how many seats are in the press room? >> 49 seats. >> mike: 49 seats. there are thousands of journalists across america. who gets to decide whose rear ends occupy 49 seats and howet come they get them and thousandd of others never, ever get to darken the door of that place?...