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Swallow for people who are watching or for some americans. >> well, i think the voters do have to take responsibility. and it's our job to go and vote for the people we think will advance the interests of the american people as a whole. so you know, come september and then come november we'll see what the american people say. and the independent voters are going to play a crucial role, as they've been the margin of victory in a number of key elections from obama to what we saw in massachusetts and the governors. you know, so i think, yes, voters do have to take responsibility. i mean, one of t...

Symbolic this has become for a lot of tea party voters in particular and independents so that's not good. also, not a lot on good tax policy and the problem there's a big focus in here on spending caps and reducing the deficit, but if you don't have policies out there growing the government, you're never really going to get out of this debt, i'm sorry, growing the economy. >> paul: growing the economy. >> sorry, growing the economy, you're never going to get out of the deficits. they don't have as much on that and have to work on it. >> paul: that's where they are going to fall short. >> they'...