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Committee. what really is the difference between the two? >> well the juddishry, it's one step closer, in terms of the process. the intelligence committee investigating judiciary committee. putting together articles of imimpeachment. it's one step closer to that process being finalized, i again in looking back to the republicans speaking out against this who have been saying that they're uneasy with the mildly, with the president's conduct. look for those republicans to see if they go further beyond the comments of saying that they're uneasy and into questioning whether or not they can still s...

Terms of the process, republican still not satisfied they think it's still not fair. from a process standpoint can they keep hammering that like they do in the past month? >> it's an important point i think they have good points but they also need to add another element about the nature of what the accusations are. that becomes difficult when a great deal of what's happening is in secret, there is leaks, there is a spin to it. the process is important and it did not change. remember in the midst of this there are circumstances that affect nancy pelosi in this process. people have not been talk...

Complaint was filed in august, august 12. that narrows it down in terms of what communication it might have been. i have to say, just thinking about this from a process standpoint, if this was the worst case scenario, the worst thing we could possibly imagine, what else is this whistleblower supposed to do besides go through this process that the trump administration is still bottling up? >> the law is clear. the information has to be made available to the intelligence community, the gang of eight. i have to tell you, i'm worried about the promise if there was one and if it was the president. ...

Promise that was regarded as so troubling it prompted an official to file this formal whistleblower complaint. one former official telling "the times" that the communication was on a phone call. we know the whistleblower complaint was filed in august, august 12th. so, that narrows it down in terms of what communication it might have been. i have to say, just thinking about this from a process standpoint, if this was the worst-case scenario, if this is something, the worst thing we could possibly imagine, what else is this whistleblower supposed to do? besides go through this process that the t...

Campaign, the fisa warrant against carter page was a fraud, i believe. the counter intelligence investigation is something that we need to look at really closely. >> dana: jim, can you help me understand from a process standpoint, seems like there's these investigations at once. help us clarify. you mentioned jim durham. he's the u.s. attorney that is tasked with looking at this particular thing or are there other investigations happening at once? >> we don't know 100%. durham is looking at how all of this got started. that absolutely includes the carter page fisa application process. remember...