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>> so there's a sort of substance and a process question. put substance to the side. we debated this in a fascinating debate with leo and the steel workers and stephanie, but process-wise, like, this is really far a field of how something like this would normally work, right? >> well, absolutely. i mean, you would consider a policy change like this very judiciously and engage all sorts of stake holders in the government and outside of the government. it would take time. you would have a plan to roll it out. there would be an engagement period, even before you did that with the public likely bu...

We debated this in a fascinating debate with leo and the steel workers and stephanie, but process-wise, like, this is really far a field of how something like this would normally work, right? >> well, absolutely. i mean, you would consider a policy change like this very judiciously and engage all sorts of stake holders in the government and outside of the government. it would take time. you would have a plan to roll it out. there would be an engagement period, even before you did that with the public likely but this is the thing. it makes me wonder, i mean, not wonder so much, just be concerne...

Nobody's been vetted. the white house said, well, these were people who have most been here before. yet no one knew their name. there was no legislative plan to tell congress. there was no diplomatic plan to tell other countries, other allies and the white house council's office was doing a review of possible tariffs on steel that's not going to be done for another two weeks. this came out of absolutely nowhere. >> so there's a sort of substance and a process question. put it to the side. we debated this in a fascinating debate with leo and the steel workers and stephanie, but process-wise, li...

Today in virginia, and iowa. obamacare is feeling badly and harming people. the republicans it said we are going to fix this mess, the democrats, 100% made on their own, obamacare. i think that the vote today, as i said, is a step. what was passed today isn't going to be the law. there are concerns, policywise and process wise, that i have with the bill right now. there are still two or three significant iterations to come of this process and what will matter is the final result. do they get it done? does it help people and fix the obamacare problem? >> martha: that is so true. if people do st...

The health care exchanges. >> joining me now is representative dan donovan, republican from new york. congressman, can you explain what the heck is going on process-wise right now because i have to say, i'm confused. are they going to try to strike a deal and get this to a vote in three days before recess? that seems preposterous. >> i don't know what this time frame is, but i do think it's the responsibility of us to get back to health care. we promised the american people we would rectify and repair what harm has been done to them in the health care field. the affordable care act is collapsi...