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Legislative process works, you will go to conference and try to reconcile those differences and produce a conference report that goes back to the house and senate. before the final bill -- >> harris: i don't want to cut you off but i know you have to go. state and local taxes have been a big one for high tax states like california and new york and several others as well. that's a big difference between the house and senate version. what do you think happens in the middle? >> i think what you will see on the senate floor, i think our bill is going to be debated and amended in the next few hours...

Ethics czar under president oba obama. i negotiated a cooperation deal for a target with mueller's office when he was u.s. attorney and let me tell you, he's not going to give one to flynn unless he implicates someone up the ladder. that means kushner, don jr. or big daddy. they are all having indigestion tonight. norm is joining us now. the former white house ethics czar and former ambassador to the czech republic. thank you for spending time with us. you helped make deals before and know how this process works. why do you think flynn would have to implicate somebody like kushner, donald trum...

Distinct and so forth and there's a review process that goes through chain of command, nothing new here frankly. heather: his role is to guide the president, the president would speak to him and say what he wants to do and he would say whether or not that's legal and they come up with a plan if that, in fact, would not work, the first plan. >> that's correct, again, the united states has a nuclear weapon's decision process, i won't go into much of the details about that, but, again, constant assessment, constant review, constant consultation with the civilian oversight with our military includ...

To what's taking place in the mueller investigation. >> let's separate it. you do bring up as a democrat, though, you bring up an important point that this does bear the donna brazile's allegations do bear investigation, do bear looking into, that the democratic party needs to look at itself pretty hard here. do you agree with senator warren and the notion that if this is the case, if donna brazile's allegations are true, that it is rigged, that the process was rigged against bernie sanders? >> look, i think rigged is a really strong word, but i have no personal knowledge of how that process w...

The president of the white house say there is nothing to see here. for the republican leadership the tact is there's nothing to say here. take a look. >> i have nothing to add to these indictments other than this is what robert mueller was tasked to do. i haven't read the indictments and i don't know the specific details of the indictments, but that is how the judicial process works. >> back with kirsten powers. also joining is scott jennings and brian fallon. brian, the former press secretary for hillary clinton, i'm wondering what you make of today. >> i think politically today has a lot of ...