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>> i thought it was a very interesting interview that you had, megan and i these they're clearly views that are not the views that barack obama has. to compare him to barack obama and say this is the world of barack obama, came out of, some left winger, barack obama is assassinating people, he is not anything like bill ayers. >> barack obama is the one that said that bill ayers is detestable. the problem is he only said it when it became an issue in his campaign. people are not friendly with people they consider to be detestable. >> in the 1960s bill buckley excavated -- if you wanted to taken...

Ayers wrote a book called "a kind and just parent" he said it was a searing and just account. >> talk about eric holder. he has an interesting role in this. tell us. >> holder was the attorney general during the clinton administration who engineered the pardonena we're talking about. >> pardoning a group that murdered your father. the clinton administration reached out to them through eric holder who was helping them. and said how would you like to get out of zwral? >> and oscar lopez denied it all together. you had an attorney general, a future attorney general and a president pushing to rele...

Does tell us. one thing that did come out of my interview with professor ayers was a full investigation of what he really did and it puts in perspective why people were raising questions about barack obama's relationship with him when he was running for president. mark? >> absolutely it does and look, your interviews have shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that bill ayers is abobnoxious human being and so is his wife, she supported the manson killings. these are not nice people. it's not to infer that barack obama shares all of his views, but barack obama comes from the same far left community i...

Ayers side but not the facts. and by the way, it's about time people stopped insulting vietnam veterans, they were not monsters and butchers and baby killers, they were young men serving their country when the likes of bill ayers wouldn't. >> he has a very different view. he thinks john mccain was a war criminal. and he thinks bowe bergdahl is a hero because he had the courage to stand up for what they believed in. >> since 1775, lexington and congress cord, good men and brave men have given their lives so that bill ayer has right to be a horse's ass. but it's an undeniable interest in barack ...

Hillary clinton pointed out they served on the same board of the same left wing charity. >> serving on a board is one thing, but socializing, and if you read ayers prior writings, they did socialize. a lot of people look at bill ayers and say i would not be caught dead in that man's living room. i would not associate with him, i would not want anything to do with him given what he has done. >> well, i guess unless you consider what he says. which is that he over and over deny what you were saying, right? >> but he admitted to bombing the capitol, bombing the pentagon, bombing police stations, ...