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Memorandum regarding michael cohen and that charge of lying to congress. if you don't mind, rachel, i'd like to read just one sentence to you. >> lees. >> yeah. the information provided by cohen about the moscow project in these proffer sessions is consistent with and corroborated by other information obtained in the course of the special counsel office's investigation. that's mueller's own words. right? they're saying that what cohen said about the moscow project, the lies to congress, others being involved, the fact that the mueller team has corroborating information in their possession come...

Go back to first principles. look at what mueller team said in their sentencing memorandum regarding michael cohen and that charge of lying to congress. if you don't mind, i'd like to read just one sentence to you. >> please. >> the information provided by cohen about the moscow project, in these proffer sessions, is consistent with and corroborated by other information obtained in the course of the special counsel office's investigation. that's mueller's own words, right. saying what cohen said about the moscow project, the lies to congress, others being involved, the fact that the mueller te...

With. but it doesn't exonerate trump. it doesn't mean something didn't happen. >> right. >> it's just not as clear what it was. and i think what mueller is saying is, whoa. you know, let's not rush to impeachment. he's putting the brakes on, as you say. and let's see -- let the facts come out the way i, mueller, am going to describe them. and so back to your original question. it seems to me that something got lost in translation here. i don't necessarily think this is someone who made up facts, meaning whoever the sources are, or that buzzfeed got it wrong. but things are very nuanced when yo...

Discussions between cohen and the white house, that he circulated his testimony. it's not as clear what those discussions were, who they were with. but it doesn't exonerate trump. it doesn't mean something didn't happen. >> right. >> it's just not as clear what it was. and i think what mueller is saying is, whoa. you know, let's not rush to impeachment. he's putting the brakes on, as you say. and let's see -- let the facts come out the way i, mueller, am going to describe them. and so back to your original question. it seems to me that something got lost in translation here. i don't necessaril...

Found interesting. >> part of it, if you talk to people close to him -- people who know him, not people close to the investigation, they say he's an institutional guy. this is the president of the united states. he's going to do it all at once and not jib-jab. "buzzfeed" says, quote, they learned about the directive quote to lie to congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the trump organization and internal company e-mails, text messages and a cache of other documents. cohen then acknowledged these instructions during his interviews with that office. the information provided by...