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>> it set a trend that the audience can accept the charact characters being deeply flaws even in a uniform. that was important to get across. >> we wanted to make a show that made you participate. made you pay attention. and i think that worked pretty well. >> and the winner is "had hill street blues." >> we had 21 nominations, and we went on to win eight emmys. and it put us on the map, literally, that's when people finally checked us out. >> programming chief of one of the networks used to say to me about shows like "hill street," what the american public wants and a cheeseburger and what yo...

Don't pay me enough to deal with animals like this. the first thing they see is a white face, and all they want to do -- >> listen to me. it was a white man that pulled the trigger, not a black one. it was a white one! >> it set a trend. the audience can accept characters being deeply flawed even though they are wearing this uniform. i thought that was important to finally get across. >> we wanted to make a show that made you participate, made you pay attention. and i think that worked pretty well. >> and the winner is -- >> we got 21 nominations, and we went on to win eight emmys. it put us o...

White face, and all they want to do -- >> listen to me. it was a white man that pulled the trigger, not a black one. it was a white one! >> it set a trend. the audience can accept characters being deeply flawed even though they are wearing this uniform. i thought that was important to finally get across. >> we wanted to make a show that made you participate, made you pay attention. and i think that worked pretty well. >> and the winner is -- >> "hill street blues." >> we got 21 nominations, and we went on to win eight emmys. it put us on the map literally, and that's when people finally checke...

And the one thing i think we did set out to be were provocateurs. >> you fill it out. >> what the hell is the matter with you, man? >> they don't pay me enough to deal with animals like thus. all they see is a white face and all they -- >> listen to me. it was a white man that pulled the trigger, not a black one. >> it set a trend. the audience can accept characters being deeply flawed even though they are caring this uniform. i thought that was important to finally get across. >> we wanted to make a show that made you participate. made you pay attention. and i think that worked pretty well. >...

The first thing they see is a white face and the first thing they want to do is -- >> listen to me. it was a white man that pulled the trigger, not a black one. it was a white one. >> it set a trend. the idea that the audience can accept its characters being deeply flawed even though they're wearing this uniform. and i thought that was important to finally get across. >> no biting. >> we wanted to make a show that made you participate. made you pay attention. and i think that worked pretty well. >> and the winner is -- >> "hill street blues." >> we got 21 nominations and we went on to win eigh...