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You say this isn't going away. let's turn to laura, host of "free speech tv" and justin elliot, reporter for salon.com. oakland, california, had a lot of violence last night. the mayor of oakland just made a statement. i want to go to this videotape. here it is. >> it's a tough time for america. we're trying to find the right thing to do. i'm going to try to be working with the community groups. we're going to try to work with the demonstrators. they have very unusual organizations, very flat. they're generally anti-government. but this is something that we hope that we can make progress on. >...

Are suggesting what the president has done based on the 2007 budget numbers is inflate the budget to a huge degree. you have the 40-cents on every dollar going to service the debt now, freezing it at a much higher level than it was three years ago and that amounts to essentially a drop in the bucket, your response? >> reporter: it's not enough. discretionardiscretionthe bigge. the healthcare expense not just for the federal government with medicaid and medicare, that's a real add on to the deficit, and frankly the biggest challenge that we haven't made enough progress on. jon: doesn't the new ...