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And clearly what he was suggesting in this discussion was that didn't happen in this campaign, and the result was a donald trump victory. >> you're very close to president obama. you talked to him about his personality. also why he's become the politician and the man that he is. you call him a friend. going back 25 years. helped him in the senate, presidential campaigns. i just wonder as you speak with him in this interview and elsewhere how personally did the president take the results of this election? >> it was interesting because it was almost -- i almost was watching him puzzle through th...

Is. you call him a friend. going back 25 years. helped him in the senate, presidential campaigns. i just wonder as you speak with him in this interview and elsewhere how personally did the president take the results of this election? >> it was interesting because it was almost -- i almost was watching him puzzle through this as we talked in this conversation, but the way he reacted to it is very familiar to me. he tends to be very philosophic philosophical. he steps back. he considers things. and then takes the long-range view. and his conclusion was that america is moving in the direction of ...