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Want to know if somebody either provided material support or should have called before i get into issues like what was his motivation. that's a little further down the road for me. >> james, you made an earlier point. this is not as typical as the ones we've been to standing shoulder to shoulder. social media may have been relevant here. there may have been threats as recent as today. that's going to shine. they're going to shine a light on that in terms of what should you have acted on? what does it mean in terms of protocols. his use of smoke grenades. the fact that he may have been trying t...

We're light on details. but it does raise the issue of here's another one. are you aware of anything on the federal level that is being done actively to deal with the issues that seem to invariably surround these shootings? we know what the states are doing. but on the federal level, is there anything to give any hope for any kind of momentum? >> well, congress is certainly broke and has done nothing to end gun crime. i have hope. i believe the fact that this movement has become more led by kids, led my students that it's intersectional. it applies to all communities and all kinds of gun viole...

2012 was the suit. 2015 was the appeal. this was years ago. >> i got to disagree with most of the media commentary including from people who are already suggesting it may have been the media environment that led to this. people are blowing through one point. that's a term we use in the law enforcement business. edp. emotionally disturbed person. before we said he had a motive we can understand, a rational actor, how confident are we he didn't have emotional issues dating back as far as 2015. that led him to snap today? you would be surprised when you're looking at cases at the local or federal...

Anger and decided now was the time when the suit was from 2015. does that fit into the mix? 2012 was the substitute. 2015 was the appeal. this was years ago. >> i got to disagree with most of the media commentary including from people who are already suggesting it may have been the media environment that led to this. people are blowing through one point. that's a term we use in the law enforcement business. edp. emotionally disturbed person. before we said he had a motive we can understand, a rational actor, how confident are we he didn't have emotional issues that led him to snap today? you w...

The last part is saving grace. it seemed to have been he had an intentional beef, a defamation suit that was brought against the paper. it was dismissed. for you, phil, how important is the followup interview with somebody like this? >> critically important. when i'm going in -- i probably did 2000 threat briefs at the fbi. those characteristics are not on the board tomorrow morning when we go in for a conversation about this with the fbi director. there's still a people game. we think we know one of them. looks like the guy acted alone. a couple other questions. did somebody participate? radi...