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>> i think chris is right, it was all muddled. it was just a muddled discussion, which isn't the end of the world. the democratic primary process is elaborate. the last time there was transportational change, it started in the democratic primary process. >> that was messy, 2008, obama was pushed on health care, by the john edwards of the world and by some of the more progressives in the race, that ended up forcing obama into a more progressive position on health care. talking about harris specifically, i think her plan was designed to be just to the left of biden, to the right of sanders, almo...

Understand and perhaps one person in every store will be better informed than as a result of that have more empathy and understanding and compassion to others. if we do that then the company's successful. this is not about the stock price or pr or marketing. i think this is a bigger issue, and that is that companies, i believe, have a deeper responsibility today to their people in the communities we serve, and i'm trying to use our scale for good. that's the bottom line. >> let me show you our viewers this "time" magazine cover you were on. it shows a box unchecked for 2016 candidate. you and ...

It. >> it is not. it is a far more progressive position if that's where you are aiming for, is to say we need to be stimulating the economy at this point. >> i also think it is two things. when are they going to stop using some exception at the rule like the surfer guy. okay. that guy exists. >> i work in television. >> the other thing too is, this is an opportunity to say, you want to know what. remember when ricky was down and we had to loan him money to pay his rent. everybody doesn't have us. everybody doesn't have a family that can help. everybody, in a family, when you talk about this st...