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And represented the state and what majority of black voters? >> i think northam's team is hoping there is a disconnect between the voters on the ground and the leaders in virginia and nationally. i don't know if there will be or not. but, look, i absolutely believe that the republican party has a lot to own up to when it comes up to the issue of race. we got a president who is called nfl player, sobs and african countries s-hole countries. hopefully we hold him and many in his party to a high standard as well and we still have not got pen ten an apology on all o those issues. >> what's your se...

Tolerance. now so much time has passed they don't even know how many were separated. it shows the flaws of the system, they were not thinking about how they would get back together with their parents. it was not a priority or thought so what happens to the kids? do they stay in foster care? what will happen? where do they go? >> the most unfortunate circumstance is for those that are standing in their courts that say you can get your child back if you have already been deported outside of the united states. if a parent is here, they may be able to reclaim their child once they're released from...

To resign. joining me, tiffany cross and geoff bennett and doug thornell and our rick tyler. he's also an msnbc political analyst. geoff, you are down there. we heard from a lot of big name democrats saying that northam should resign. what are people who voted for him saying? >> reporter: well, there is a political dimension to this and personal. when you talk to people who know ralph northam and voted for him a couple of times in the past. they are torn. how do you judge a man? you judge him based on the man and the governor he is now. they say he's a good governor who embraces the same kind ...

There is a moderate strain that works for winning elections among democratic voters. he sees himself as a moderate who could win? >> a moderate and someone who has the record and experience that he could say this is what we need at this moment and an argument for sort of getting the country back on track. that's where he seems to see his potential lane and in terms of the pure politics of it, if you have a lot of candidates who are fighting over the same left wing and voters, prerogative voteogr and between kamala harris or cory booker, that leaves a whole chunk of voters there that biden feel...

Always almost happens back in the residence where there were fewer aids and less supervision and he's able to make the call as much as he wants to. >> yes, i am having a chil child -- when we were thinking about how you raise a child and how you structure a child's time, a lot of talk about unstructured play to allow them to be creative and all these terms that are now being applied to the president for his unstructured time in the oval office. i am not trying to be cheeky here but it does seem like you got to treat donald trump with kid gloves and i am not the first person to say that. many o...