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Very recently, until this kind of activist reading from the roberts court. >> and on justice ginsburg, dahlia, you also write that she has become, if anything, more strong and crisp in her sort of later years. what did you mean by that? >> well, i just think if you look at her voice, at what's emerged in the lilly ledbetter case, in the walmart case, in the voting rights act case from last year, i think she's at the top of her game when it comes to being what stevens was, which was this clarion voice of progressive vision and progressive aspiration at the court. and to suggest that you can jus...

But there's a republican war on women? >> it is preposterous. the thing is, democrats, and a lot of women in the democratic party are hypocrites. when you point it out, there's a definition of hypocrite. there's also his spokesperson, sorry, chief of staff, quoted on another network the other day, saying the mayor is surround bied sophisticated advisers. if you're a democrat, that's all that matters. if you have a progressive vision, pro-choice, doesn't matter how you conduct yourself in public office, as long as you have that vision, as long as you're not a republican, you're fine. >> eric, t...

Unfortunately, i have to say the messenger at this point not so much anymore. but i do appreciate -- >> you don't like me? >> no, no, no. not you. i'm talking about -- i'm talking about mayor bob filner who in bringing this vision forward has now become the person and is accused by at least eight people of some pretty serious allegations. but lee burdick, i appreciate you coming and joining us tonight. chief of staff to san diego mayor bob filner. thank you for your time.

Them to come forward and make their faces known. the mayor has a right to face his accusers, and there are always two sides to every story. i believe in the development of an evidentiary record where a jury of his peers can judge what has happened, and if, in fact, he has done something wrong, he will be held accountable. but what is important to me is that we have a unique opportunity in this administration to carry forward the passion of a vision of a better government, a better future where neighborhoods are empowered, where homeless veterans are off the street, where we can take care of ea...

Your point about due process and absolutely agree that, of course, mr. filner along with every american citizen has a right to be first assumed innocent until proven guilty. and all of that. that's different than the question of effective governing. he has the right in the question of court. given the credibility of those who have leveled these allegations, has it become impossible for this mayor to actually govern? >> absolutely not. and, in fact, that's really why i wanted to come talk with you this evening is because the mayor is surrounded by very sophisticated advisers who are committed t...