BBCNEWS HARDtalk June 4, 2024 23:54:00
Your two children are here. what's your take on johannesburg? south africa? where is it at? i think it is... sometimes i would say i'm cautiously pessimistic, but i think in south africa you cannot be either an optimist or a pessimist. to claim you're one or the other is to miss what is happening here. so for every disastrous thing and bad decision that is happening, there are extraordinary impulses and projects beginning. but to say, "oh, there are these great projects and extraordinary energy and good will that still exists after so little has changed for so many people in south africa," to ...
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